Tunku’s Tapes: More Than Coffe Shop Talk
Tunku’s Tapes: More Than “Coffee Shop Talk”
Book Review: K. Das & The Tunku Tapes. Compiled and edited by Kua Kia Soong, Strategic Info Research Development, Petaling Jaya, 2002. 148 pages, RM 20.00.
(www.Malaysiakini.com March 3, 2006)
Editorial lead: The Tunku’s frankness was refreshing, except when he got carried with those he disliked. His disparaging personal remarks on Mahathir’s heritage were unbecoming and offensive.
In the 1980’s, while Tunku Abdul Rahman was alive and still very much in the news, I wrote to a number of Malaysian historians to interest them on an oral history project. It was to be modeled after the excellent ones at major American universities. As was the typical Malaysian response, I did not get any reply, except from one. Typically Malaysian again, he curtly responded that local history was not his specialty!
Mine was more than a mere suggestion; I offered to fund the program. My particular interest was Tunku, and the few surviving members of his first cabinet.
Little did I know that at the time a prominent journalist, K. Das, had been interviewing the Tunku for a planned biography. Sadly, Das died before he could complete his project. Fortunately his estate had made those tapes available. This book, K. Das & The Tunku Tapes, is the final product.
Limitations of the Written Word
Historians recognize the limitations of the written word as a historical source. Unlike the days of yore, today’s leaders rarely keep personal journals. While they give speeches and write official correspondents, for the most part those are “ghost written,” with specific audiences or political purposes in mind. There is minimal personal reflection.
The private communications of leaders today are rarely recorded, unless of course done secretly a la the Nixon White House. Some leaders do keep personal diaries, but more with their memoir in mind. Such notes thus serve to put the writer in a favorable light.
Modern technology makes voice and image recordings easy and cheap. The resulting materials can be digitized, archived, and disseminated with high fidelity without damaging the original.
There is more to an interview than merely placing a microphone in front of the subject and recording the ensuing conversations. Poorly done and you get nothing more than a rambling journey into nostalgia, or the settling of old scores. That is, coffee-shop talk.
Good interviews bring fresh insights or reveal hitherto unknown facts. They enhance our understanding of events.
It would be best to have institutional sponsorship of such projects. This point is validated by Das’ premature death, with the tapes entangled in probate. We thank the estate of Mr. Das for sharing these tapes. I would further urge that the tapes be donated to a university so scholars could readily access them.
Bringing out the Real Tunku
The book is “compiled and edited” by Kua Kia Soong, who has no less than 17 titles to his credit. I am familiar with Das’ work during his tenure at the Far Eastern Economic Review and enjoyed his crisp prose and incisive reporting. My expectations are therefore high.
After the foreword by Kua, the book begins with Das’ “Introduction” to what would have been his magnum opus, an authorized biography of the Tunku based on those tapes. My disappointment begins with the very first sentence; it is 118 words long! This is not the Das I remember from his FEER days. More likely, this was his initial rough draft; had he been alive, he would have definitely untangled it. He would never have let that kind of convoluted prose see the light of day. Either that or Das must have had some fine editors at FEER.
Kua should have been more respectful of the memory of his friend by polishing up the manuscript; editing means more than merely compiling.
Fortunately, that longwinded first sentence was the exception; the rest of the introduction was vintage Das, skillfully weaving snippets of the conversations with astute observations of the Tunkus’ relationships with his household help. What surprises me was that all of Tunku’s personal help were non-Malays. They doted on him, reverentially, fully aware that they were taking care and in the presence of a great man.
It is a tribute to Das’ literary skills that he successfully brought out the Tunku’s basic humanity, a man without pretensions despite his royal heritage and being a former Prime Minister. The Tunku was truly “a prince with the heart of a commoner.”
The Tunku readily admitted to his many personal failings, a humility rare among humans especially leaders. As for his well-known fondness for alcohol, haram (forbidden) in Islam, he had a disarmingly simple rational. He sought Allah’s forgiveness, and added that Allah would surely forgive him, certainly ahead of those leaders who oppress and torture their people. Iran’s Mullahs, please take note!
The rest of the book is a verbatim transcript of the interviews with Tunku, except for the last chapter, which is Kua’s tribute to Das.
This is raw – very raw – transcription, with no attempt at clarification or editing. Consequently there are many ambiguous and orphan pronouns. Readers have to pause and reconstruct the whole conversation to figure out to whom the “he” or “him” refers. Mildly irritating!
There were also no notes to place particular interviews in perspective. Unless one is familiar with the topical issues at the time of the recordings, it would be difficult to follow the conversations. It would have been helpful if Kua were to add background information to fill in the void.
More Reminiscing, Less Introspecting
These are less introspective sessions between a seasoned journalist and a retired statesman, rather of two old friends, full of admiration for one another, reminiscing.
The Tunku was amazingly frank in his opinions of the various personalities. Tuanku Mahmud, the King, was described as “mad, raving mad.”
Tunku’s frankness was refreshing, except when he got carried away with those he disliked. His disparaging personal remarks on Mahathir’s heritage were unbecoming and sullied the Tunku’s good natured image. Frankly, they were offensive.
The Tunku was indeed a cultured gentleman of the old world. I can see him being contemptuous of and unable to get along with those less refined like Lee Kuan Yew.
There were two events during Tunku’s tenure that represented polar extremes of his achievements: Malaysia’s independence and the May 1969 race riots. Alas there were minimal reflections on the two important episodes, a failure of both interviewer and interviewee.
These interviews were conducted in 1988 when the Tunku was 86 years old, physically frail but amazingly still mentally alert. His recollections may be selective and details of painful events forgotten, nonetheless the Tunku had done another great service to his beloved nation by giving these interviews. K. Das’ untimely death robbed the nation of what would have been a highly readable and perceptive biography of our first Prime Minister.
I have one suggestion: include a CD of the actual interviews, with appropriate introductory and clarifying remarks, with future editions.
March 5th, 2006 at 6:31 pm
Dear Bakri,
I read the book, “K.Dass and The Tunku Tapes”, too and agree that Dr. Kua Sia Soong, the editor, could have done a much better job. But I congratulate him on a moving tribute to K. Dass. Maybe Dr Kua will bear your comments in mind when he decides to publish a second edition.
Our Archives people should consider creating a oral history section and actively start to interview aging political leaders, corporate types and entrepreneurs, academics, and outstanding public servants, teachers, sportsmen and sportswomen about their times and experiences. There is also a need to introduce legislation like The Freedom of Information Act in the US which can allow scholars and researchers access to official papers and other documents.
We can learn from the past, so that we do not have to copy the same ideas which may not be relevant today, and repeat the mistakes. For example, the “Green Book” idea by the late Tun Razak in the 1970s is being reintroduced in our country by the Badawi Administration; hopefully with a “biotechnology and ICT” component, we will do better as garden farmers, not as Knowledge workers and excellent service providers.
Thanks.
March 5th, 2006 at 8:52 pm
Dear Din,
About the Green Book.
Maybe he felt it’s too high a price (or too difficult for him and his young, oxbridge groupthink!) for increasing or maintaining complexity of Knowedge Workers, excellent service providers, globalisation etc, and therefore, he chosed for the society to become less complex i.e tanam padi makan sendiri. Of course. a decline in complexity is one definition of a collapse. However there is a difference between a planned transformation to a simpler society and one that occurs against his will.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:56 am
Dear Benta,
Thanks, but you ought to elaborate on your statement that “there is a difference between a planned transformation to a simpler society, and one that occurs against his will”. Collapse!! Have you read Jared Diamond’s latest book of the same title?
Someone said to me today that we “don’t fix it, if it ain’t broke.” Badawi is not doing that. He want to things differently so that he is not identified with Tun Dr. Mahathir’s policies and actions. Folly, I say, to ignore that simple advice.
I will comment later.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:59 am
Change “want to” to “wants to do things differently”. Sorry for the omission. Tks.
March 6th, 2006 at 8:40 am
Bro Din and Dr Bakri,
Maybe you should suggest to Malaysia that they set up a Premier Library similar to the Presidential Library in the US for each exPresident where they preserve documents and manuscripts pertaining to the administration. That way the tapes and other sound bits, films and images can be secured and displayed for all citizens to see and perhaps do research.
I know that Mahathir has set up the Yayasan Perdana and also has a similar library where he hold court but Malaysia should have a similar institution for each past Prime Minister.
March 6th, 2006 at 7:41 pm
Din,
Keys to survival in times of limited resources i.e. oil are (i) simplifying the society, (ii) adopting a zero-growth society and (iii) develop new energy supplies. The first two are the easiest and are interlinked. The third- the most preferable - is the hardest. This explains the difference between him and Dr M. All evidences show that Dr M will always go for the third.
Maybe he was influenced by Diamond’s Tikopia and he’s trying to apply that to Malaysia. This planned transformation is not so bad but I dont know what’s going to happen to knowledge people like yourself. I used to tap rubber in my 4 acres plot before. I guess I can do adjustment quite easily.
Salam.
March 6th, 2006 at 8:18 pm
Dear Benta,
We have to abandon our “simple” ways, and learn to deal with complexity and turbulence. We can do that if we constantly adapt, stay flexible (and be ready for points of inflexion) and innovate. We also have to create our own growth since it is a matter of survival. Stagnation and decay are no options as that over time means collapse.
Mahathir introduced policies on energy diversification and conservation. He even proposed intelligent buildings and built-in environments like in KLIA with the help of Architect Furukawa, the Japanese father of Symbiosis, and KLCC area(it was once a race course, but today it is a tourist area with upmarket apartments and posh hotels). Even Kuala Lumpur is a garden city, despite the jams and dirty toilets. But there is no follow through.
To his credit, Mahathir is not afraid to make hard decisions and deal with controversies on his own because he is intellectually awesome and can engage and bond with the public in times of crisis. But today there are people in our country are going to underdo his legacy, instead of improving and building on it. It is all politics.
For “knowledge” and learning people like me, the world is our theatre.So, I don’t worry for myself. Like you, I can adapt. I am not worried even if I became a car parking attendant (this is highly remote, of course, since I can work and teach overseas because of my qualifications). I am now more concerned about the future of my grandchildren (so far 5 of them and counting). Politicians are too short term to worry about that, although they swear that they do care about the future generation.
Thanks.
March 7th, 2006 at 12:36 am
Bro Din,
Couldn’t agree more to what you said. (truly sorry, I missed out the “Bro” before you name in the last postings!).
Yes, Mahathir is a class above. Even now, when he’s already out of the office, I hardly find any inconsistencies or illogical statements coming from him ~ NST’s cartoon on Nabi Mohamad, APs, Proton, China’s growing economy, Singapore, Australia, Israel-Palestine, Hamas, Bush etc.
I really miss this great leader of the world.
I’m just trying to understand where the current administration wants us to go. Are we going to follow the way the Soviet Union dissolved into a lower level of complexity? Are we going to follow what Diamond describes the success of the tiny South Pacific Island of Tikopia ~ a zero growth society or are we going to follow the way England turned from wood to coal in the 1550~develop new energy source that led to the Industrial Revolution?
I knew where Mahathir will be going if he’s still in the office, without doubt! But, I’m not sure if the current leader knows where he’s going. At the meantime, I want prepare myself to become the best rubber taper in the whole Benta.
Sallam
March 7th, 2006 at 12:45 am
…describes, the success of the tiny South Pacific..
At the meantime, I want to prepare myself to become….
Soory for the typos.