Comments on: Reflections on Ramadan’s Many Gifts

By: Putat

Putat — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:15:51 +0000

Liberal or conservative, Sunni or Shia, Pas or UMNO emerged as Muslims rejected certain verses from the Holy Quran and as replacement, accepted certain verses authored or edited by men.

By: Din Merican

Din Merican — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:09:43 +0000

Please change “with” to “that” and add “with” before “your view”. Puasa lah. Sorry. Thanks.

By: Din Merican

Din Merican — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:06:07 +0000

Dear 10-4 Ibrahim,

I agree your view with “someone who practises the faith is a muslim and there is no mention in the Quran of liberal muslim or conservative muslims”. It is nice.

But try to carry that message to our Sunni and Shia brothers in Iraq, the bearded mullahs in Iran, the Wahabbists in Saudi Arabia, or the aping mullahs of PAS, and UMNO’s Islam Hadharists and their “Goebbels” in the Radio and Televisen Malaysia.

Thanks.

By: 10-4 Ibrahim

10-4 Ibrahim — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:33:12 +0000

I think Mr Baju is probably doing his Umrah or just refraining from commenting during the month of Ramadhan. From his past comments, Mr Baju exhibits indepth knowledge not only of the Quran but also the Hadiths and the Sunnah of the Prophet pbuh.
Bro Saladin, this is the age of technology. There are lots of Quran on CD and also hand held PDA type that you can bring along with you. There is an audio version that you can follow along plus an English translation of the surah line by line. I have been using this for last 6 years now.
Personally someone is either a Muslim or non muslim. Someone who practises the faith is a muslim and there is no mention in the Quran of liberal muslim or conservative muslim. I really like to hear Mr Baju’s views.

By: 10-4 Ibrahim

10-4 Ibrahim — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:33:11 +0000

By: Din Merican

Din Merican — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:28:28 +0000

Patience, patience, dear Saladin, 10-4 Ibrahim and friends. Mr Baju, our resident tok guru, will soon respond. He is thinking at the moment. He cannot just quote the Quran and the Hadith out of context. There are guys in cyberland waiting to pounce on him.

At least he still has his baju (jubbah). I am sure he is worried that he might lose it by making the incorrect move. So let us give him a little time. Thanks.

By: Saladin

Saladin — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:04:12 +0000

to mr baju, the resident tok guru:

we need your wisdom, the words and experience of your wisdom mean a lot to us who are less enlightened and have not seen the light!

By: Saladin

Saladin — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:56:59 +0000

well, saudara din merican…
when i listened to our saudara from cherok tok oon give his speeches, i am impressed by his ability to quote the koran. where did he learn to do that?? when he was an undergraduate doing malay and islamic studies?

every time i looked at his wife, i never failed to notice the very expensive silk tudung she had on her head.

do we want the likes of anwar ibrahim to lead us as an islamic nation?

when i was attending koran classes after school together with tunku yusof (he was the oldest in the group, very much older), my guru ugama who was a relative told me never mind if i dont understand arabic. to be able to recite the koran would be my pass to the after life, to question it is blasphemy. i am now unable to quote the koran, but only to recognise and recite verses. unable to understand the cultural and socio-political context in which it was written.

i didnt have mr baju to help me.

By: Saladin

Saladin — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:35:21 +0000

well, it looks like mr baju has left, faded away into oblivion with his shirt ripped from his back! he is now baju-less. a man without his baju is forced to bare all, his naked body and soul to the world - and that to a conservative muslim is a no-no.

why are we waiting? why are we waiting?? why are we waiting???

By: kgboy

kgboy — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:59:01 +0000

Saladin,

God is omniscient. Do we need representative to God? No, I do not think
Allah avails to us through the mosque, certainly not God through the church. Our relationship with Him is direct. No amount of pretence can we hide from Him. Ultimately we only answer to Him.

Selamat Berpuasa.