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		<title>By: Science Fair Ideas</title>
		<link>http://www.bakrimusa.com/archives/our-schools-and-idle-youths#comment-26181</link>
		<dc:creator>Science Fair Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dave&lt;/strong&gt;

Interesting topic... I'm working in this industry myself and I don't agree about this in 100%, but I added your page to my bookmarks and hope to see more interesting articles in the future</description>
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<p>Interesting topic&#8230; I&#8217;m working in this industry myself and I don&#8217;t agree about this in 100%, but I added your page to my bookmarks and hope to see more interesting articles in the future</p>
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		<title>By: johnleemk</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnleemk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>asri (whichever one):
What good does criticising the source of an idea do? If you are suggesting Dr. Bakri's ideas are unworkable, then provide reasons. As your posts stand, they seem to imply you disagree with him just because he is "comfortable" living as a surgeon in California. If Dr. Bakri does not love Malaysia, do you think he would spend so much of his time setting up a blog and writing so many books about his home country? Many Malay populists are content with just insulting the loyalty and citizenship of the non-Malays, but apparently you take things one step farther and insult Malaysians living abroad as well.

As for Dr. Bakri's post, I think that the main problem with Malaysian schools as things stand are the teachers. They are overworked and underpaid, and given the wrong subjects to teach (to boot). I know pf teachers with physics degrees teaching secondary school biology, and IT teachers forced to teach history. Before moving on to deeper details, we &lt;b&gt;must&lt;/b&gt; correct this problem by properly training and allocating teachers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asri (whichever one):<br />
What good does criticising the source of an idea do? If you are suggesting Dr. Bakri&#8217;s ideas are unworkable, then provide reasons. As your posts stand, they seem to imply you disagree with him just because he is &#8220;comfortable&#8221; living as a surgeon in California. If Dr. Bakri does not love Malaysia, do you think he would spend so much of his time setting up a blog and writing so many books about his home country? Many Malay populists are content with just insulting the loyalty and citizenship of the non-Malays, but apparently you take things one step farther and insult Malaysians living abroad as well.</p>
<p>As for Dr. Bakri&#8217;s post, I think that the main problem with Malaysian schools as things stand are the teachers. They are overworked and underpaid, and given the wrong subjects to teach (to boot). I know pf teachers with physics degrees teaching secondary school biology, and IT teachers forced to teach history. Before moving on to deeper details, we <b>must</b> correct this problem by properly training and allocating teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: KingKong</title>
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		<dc:creator>KingKong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 17:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asri first one,

Perhaps you should go register your handle as a trademark and then you can file a lawsuit. In the meantime, posters here are not interested in who is who - except what you say here.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asri first one,</p>
<p>Perhaps you should go register your handle as a trademark and then you can file a lawsuit. In the meantime, posters here are not interested in who is who - except what you say here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anak Malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anak Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about we form our own multi-racial, secular, transparent, accountable political party? We can call it PBM (Parti Bloggers Malaysia).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about we form our own multi-racial, secular, transparent, accountable political party? We can call it PBM (Parti Bloggers Malaysia).</p>
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		<title>By: jerome</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 05:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is pretty much my 1st entry. i was just wondering about this one issue. We have so many publications and blogs always highlighting all the problems and ills that are plaguing our country. I mean, it's all well and good to know what is going on, but why don't we really discuss how we can solve it properly? 

Some of you will probably say "but he did offer suggestions how to solve the problem whattttt". I know, but let me give you an example. Just supposed i want to eat an apple hanging from a tree. You guys would probably say go pluck the apple and eat as the obvious solution to the problem. I was hoping for a more specific answer such as "grab the ladder from the woodshed, climb the tree and pluck the apple". 

This is all very unplanned, so please don't be too hard on my example. But what im trying to ask is just this. Can we have  more specifics on how things can be done? As many of you know, Malaysia's laws are very very ironclad and it's hard to exploit anything that could mean a change with any regards to education, race and religion etc. So how do we stop the rot that is making our country less than what we should be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is pretty much my 1st entry. i was just wondering about this one issue. We have so many publications and blogs always highlighting all the problems and ills that are plaguing our country. I mean, it&#8217;s all well and good to know what is going on, but why don&#8217;t we really discuss how we can solve it properly? </p>
<p>Some of you will probably say &#8220;but he did offer suggestions how to solve the problem whattttt&#8221;. I know, but let me give you an example. Just supposed i want to eat an apple hanging from a tree. You guys would probably say go pluck the apple and eat as the obvious solution to the problem. I was hoping for a more specific answer such as &#8220;grab the ladder from the woodshed, climb the tree and pluck the apple&#8221;. </p>
<p>This is all very unplanned, so please don&#8217;t be too hard on my example. But what im trying to ask is just this. Can we have  more specifics on how things can be done? As many of you know, Malaysia&#8217;s laws are very very ironclad and it&#8217;s hard to exploit anything that could mean a change with any regards to education, race and religion etc. So how do we stop the rot that is making our country less than what we should be?</p>
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		<title>By: asri (the first one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>asri (the first one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 03:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to the second asri, 

What the hell are you trying to pull here? I know your anonymity is your shield, but at least have some self respect and stop hijacking people's comments!!! Idiot..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to the second asri, </p>
<p>What the hell are you trying to pull here? I know your anonymity is your shield, but at least have some self respect and stop hijacking people&#8217;s comments!!! Idiot..</p>
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		<title>By: c53k</title>
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		<dc:creator>c53k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 01:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asri has a point!

But then that proposal needs Man of substance, ethical &#38; integrity.

Br Bakri is right to say that environment maketh the man. But take a look at the present environment that our M'sian society is operating under!

The three branches of the govt are a joke; with monkey see monkey do. Moreover most of them now operate to certain extend like fiefdoms with minor 'sultans'.

In the private sectors everyone looks within their own boundary defined by self interest. See how our press &#38; media behave! Even some of our NGOs cannot look further than their limited resources can provide.

Then our political parties - the biggest joke in town.

Trying to fight &#38; change from within? Provided you don't get overflown by all the inter-plays of self interests surrond you. MCA, Gerakan, MIC &#38; UMNO are all the same. they are all only interested to look after their own pockets. 

Only when there is spilled-overs will then the commoners being thrown a skinned bones. &#38; yet the commoners are still being fooled to perpetuate the same game.

These are the reflections of our educational system. Dr Bakri is right to emphasize the rehabilitation of our education system, which has being run down throughout the course of her history.

All the modern features in the schools will maketh a MAN if the basics of humanity are being imparted diligently, unbigotly &#38; historically correct.

What's the point of having a technically skilled person &#38; yet the mind is dark like a chasm with only one tunnel direction. 

&#38; yet beyond all those unemployable graduates &#38; within those employed 'cream de la creams' there are those that fall within this category. These are the people that are carrying the course of the nation towards  darker pages &#38; the momentun is accelerating.

Ya! by all means fight within the system, provided one's conviction will not be swagged by the surrounding enviromental factors. 

BUT where to get this MAN of calibre to take up this challenge? Who will be the conscience of M'sia to wake up the general 'bolehan' by sacrifice him/herself to fire the first volley!

This volley will have to be in the educational field &#38; it'll take many years &#38; sacrifices to achieve a minor first step to untwisted the 40+ years of political interferences in educating our youth.

&#38; yet I'm dispair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asri has a point!</p>
<p>But then that proposal needs Man of substance, ethical &amp; integrity.</p>
<p>Br Bakri is right to say that environment maketh the man. But take a look at the present environment that our M&#8217;sian society is operating under!</p>
<p>The three branches of the govt are a joke; with monkey see monkey do. Moreover most of them now operate to certain extend like fiefdoms with minor &#8217;sultans&#8217;.</p>
<p>In the private sectors everyone looks within their own boundary defined by self interest. See how our press &amp; media behave! Even some of our NGOs cannot look further than their limited resources can provide.</p>
<p>Then our political parties - the biggest joke in town.</p>
<p>Trying to fight &amp; change from within? Provided you don&#8217;t get overflown by all the inter-plays of self interests surrond you. MCA, Gerakan, MIC &amp; UMNO are all the same. they are all only interested to look after their own pockets. </p>
<p>Only when there is spilled-overs will then the commoners being thrown a skinned bones. &amp; yet the commoners are still being fooled to perpetuate the same game.</p>
<p>These are the reflections of our educational system. Dr Bakri is right to emphasize the rehabilitation of our education system, which has being run down throughout the course of her history.</p>
<p>All the modern features in the schools will maketh a MAN if the basics of humanity are being imparted diligently, unbigotly &amp; historically correct.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of having a technically skilled person &amp; yet the mind is dark like a chasm with only one tunnel direction. </p>
<p>&amp; yet beyond all those unemployable graduates &amp; within those employed &#8216;cream de la creams&#8217; there are those that fall within this category. These are the people that are carrying the course of the nation towards  darker pages &amp; the momentun is accelerating.</p>
<p>Ya! by all means fight within the system, provided one&#8217;s conviction will not be swagged by the surrounding enviromental factors. </p>
<p>BUT where to get this MAN of calibre to take up this challenge? Who will be the conscience of M&#8217;sia to wake up the general &#8216;bolehan&#8217; by sacrifice him/herself to fire the first volley!</p>
<p>This volley will have to be in the educational field &amp; it&#8217;ll take many years &amp; sacrifices to achieve a minor first step to untwisted the 40+ years of political interferences in educating our youth.</p>
<p>&amp; yet I&#8217;m dispair.</p>
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		<title>By: asri</title>
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		<dc:creator>asri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 23:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today monkeys populate the seats in our Parliament. Monkeys see, monkeys do – their motto.

Let the good doc  return and offer his services to those he says closest to his heart – his “comrades-in- arms” so to speak. There is no point offering lip service and indulging in useless rhetoric, with that “I know best attitude” or holier than thou attitude. There is nothing new about your ideas as others have trodden down the same path and have found them impracticable.

Having Din Merican as your sidekick will not make up for the lack of  originality in your ideas.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today monkeys populate the seats in our Parliament. Monkeys see, monkeys do – their motto.</p>
<p>Let the good doc  return and offer his services to those he says closest to his heart – his “comrades-in- arms” so to speak. There is no point offering lip service and indulging in useless rhetoric, with that “I know best attitude” or holier than thou attitude. There is nothing new about your ideas as others have trodden down the same path and have found them impracticable.</p>
<p>Having Din Merican as your sidekick will not make up for the lack of  originality in your ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 15:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asri,

....are you still there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asri,</p>
<p>&#8230;.are you still there?</p>
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		<title>By: Fathol Zaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fathol Zaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 14:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Maniam for your concern. Just a reminder to those who want to fight from within. I am certain they already have a dossier on me. 

A small price for wanting to institute changes like asri has advocated. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Maniam for your concern. Just a reminder to those who want to fight from within. I am certain they already have a dossier on me. </p>
<p>A small price for wanting to institute changes like asri has advocated.</p>
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