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		<title>By: Malaysian Maniac</title>
		<link>http://www.bakrimusa.com/archives/dealing-with-umnos-childish-tantrums#comment-56473</link>
		<dc:creator>Malaysian Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 06:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>idealist,

I think we should make it our responsibility to spread the "truth" to all Malaysians. As you said, UMNO may have help the poor Malays, but it's not much. There's a possibility that a Opposition led government might be able to devise a policy that might be able to help them even more. Parties like Keadilan is a Malay-led party, and they will definitely not ignore the plights of the poor Malays. If the new government fail in their policy, they know they can always go back to UMNO. Why not give it a try? 

My guess is many people do NOT even think about this possibility. A BN-led government is all the country has seen thus far. 
However, if we can create this awareness, they might feel differently. But of course,  if they still choose UMNO, then we have to respect the decision of the majority. Afterall, that's what democracy is all about, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>idealist,</p>
<p>I think we should make it our responsibility to spread the &#8220;truth&#8221; to all Malaysians. As you said, UMNO may have help the poor Malays, but it&#8217;s not much. There&#8217;s a possibility that a Opposition led government might be able to devise a policy that might be able to help them even more. Parties like Keadilan is a Malay-led party, and they will definitely not ignore the plights of the poor Malays. If the new government fail in their policy, they know they can always go back to UMNO. Why not give it a try? </p>
<p>My guess is many people do NOT even think about this possibility. A BN-led government is all the country has seen thus far.<br />
However, if we can create this awareness, they might feel differently. But of course,  if they still choose UMNO, then we have to respect the decision of the majority. Afterall, that&#8217;s what democracy is all about, right?</p>
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		<title>By: idealist</title>
		<link>http://www.bakrimusa.com/archives/dealing-with-umnos-childish-tantrums#comment-56470</link>
		<dc:creator>idealist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 06:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm also heartened to see that there are many of my fellow Malaysians who keep a clear mind and level head on the issue of UMNO's transgressions and fault them appropriately without going overboard with the condemnation. It would indeed be greatly encouraging if during our next general election we can see the tides of change sweep through our country.

I however, want to raise a question that I feel needs answering. I believe that the Malay votes are the most important of all for victory. If there is no decisive change here it matters little who the Chinese, Indian, Iban or Kadazan vote for. In this case, can anyone confidently say that the Malay poor will vote for the opposition? 
UMNO may not have taken the best care of them, but I am sure many will feel some measure of gratitude for the handouts (meagre as it may be) from the UMNO led government.
If the poor Malays have no appetite for change, our ideals will be crushed before they ever got started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also heartened to see that there are many of my fellow Malaysians who keep a clear mind and level head on the issue of UMNO&#8217;s transgressions and fault them appropriately without going overboard with the condemnation. It would indeed be greatly encouraging if during our next general election we can see the tides of change sweep through our country.</p>
<p>I however, want to raise a question that I feel needs answering. I believe that the Malay votes are the most important of all for victory. If there is no decisive change here it matters little who the Chinese, Indian, Iban or Kadazan vote for. In this case, can anyone confidently say that the Malay poor will vote for the opposition?<br />
UMNO may not have taken the best care of them, but I am sure many will feel some measure of gratitude for the handouts (meagre as it may be) from the UMNO led government.<br />
If the poor Malays have no appetite for change, our ideals will be crushed before they ever got started.</p>
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		<title>By: Malaysian Maniac</title>
		<link>http://www.bakrimusa.com/archives/dealing-with-umnos-childish-tantrums#comment-56077</link>
		<dc:creator>Malaysian Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad that there are still people like you guys out here who's able to look at the issue at hand with rational and well-thought comments. I think, it's our responsibilty to  bring this type of views to the masses who've been fed with the propagandas of the government through mainstream media. We need to encourage them to question the enws that they hear and read. NST has a blog http://www.monsterblog.com.my/ where the mainstream masses gather to discuss ideas and issues. In discussions related to politics, if you read the blogs there, you can tell that some of them are in fact unaware of the real situation. Maybe you guys should also join those blogs and present your ideas to them as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that there are still people like you guys out here who&#8217;s able to look at the issue at hand with rational and well-thought comments. I think, it&#8217;s our responsibilty to  bring this type of views to the masses who&#8217;ve been fed with the propagandas of the government through mainstream media. We need to encourage them to question the enws that they hear and read. NST has a blog <a href="http://www.monsterblog.com.my/" rel="nofollow">http://www.monsterblog.com.my/</a> where the mainstream masses gather to discuss ideas and issues. In discussions related to politics, if you read the blogs there, you can tell that some of them are in fact unaware of the real situation. Maybe you guys should also join those blogs and present your ideas to them as well.</p>
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		<title>By: BeFree</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeFree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The relevance of UMNO as championing the rights of Malays has taken a nose-dive as Malays themselves see that such talk has been only to safeguard the interests of a few well-connected cronies. Incidentally, the word "crony" was coined by the Malays themselves. PAS, as one of the most ignorant parties around, thought of and implemented a religious dimension when Malays abandoned UMNO soon after Anwar was sacked. Malays, while they do have a religious propensity, are also interested in the bread and butter issues and savour the trappings of an exciting world. PAS read their support wrongly and pushed for the hermit-style religiousity which again saw many leaving to return to UMNO. After all these years, PAS has not learnt much.

Malaysians, by and large, are raring for a change. The BN govt will try its best to keep the opposition divided and disarray, as it always had done. While there are many good people with good governance credentials, the only charismatic person who would be able to challenge the BN govt is Anwar and I believe he has the strength and stamina to challenge the UMNO led BN govt head-on. I am so fed-up with the arrogance of BN politicians and angry (call it mad) at the way the country has gone to the dogs. How can any sane person tolerate the country being plundered right in front of our eyes? Do they think that we Malaysians are that stupid and ignorant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The relevance of UMNO as championing the rights of Malays has taken a nose-dive as Malays themselves see that such talk has been only to safeguard the interests of a few well-connected cronies. Incidentally, the word &#8220;crony&#8221; was coined by the Malays themselves. PAS, as one of the most ignorant parties around, thought of and implemented a religious dimension when Malays abandoned UMNO soon after Anwar was sacked. Malays, while they do have a religious propensity, are also interested in the bread and butter issues and savour the trappings of an exciting world. PAS read their support wrongly and pushed for the hermit-style religiousity which again saw many leaving to return to UMNO. After all these years, PAS has not learnt much.</p>
<p>Malaysians, by and large, are raring for a change. The BN govt will try its best to keep the opposition divided and disarray, as it always had done. While there are many good people with good governance credentials, the only charismatic person who would be able to challenge the BN govt is Anwar and I believe he has the strength and stamina to challenge the UMNO led BN govt head-on. I am so fed-up with the arrogance of BN politicians and angry (call it mad) at the way the country has gone to the dogs. How can any sane person tolerate the country being plundered right in front of our eyes? Do they think that we Malaysians are that stupid and ignorant?</p>
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		<title>By: anakhujanbatu</title>
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		<dc:creator>anakhujanbatu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those Malays who think more of preserving their Malay rights than of the welfare of the nation, I'd like to share this well-reasoned letter to the Sun from Azmi Sharom. I believe the gentleman is a Law Professor at IIU.

Perhaps the article may also create the needed dissonance in the thinking of some of those who think that voting the statusquo out will bring racial chaos. That's falling into the trap of UMNO. They've held that threat over us since May 13 1969. Haven't we grown up enough since then to be able to tell those Ugly Malays in UMNO where to stuff their racist threats?

http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=16221
Tue, 28 Nov 2006
SPEAK UP! :: Letters

Fear-mongers drown out genuine issues

It would be an understatement to say that the just-concluded Umno General Assembly has caused a great deal of concern among right-thinking Malaysians, regardless of race. The language by many of the delegates was disgraceful. Although the prime minister did make conciliatory gestures in his closing address, the fact remains that not one of the Umno delegates, with the exception of Markiman Kobiran, publicly said anything against such behaviour. This to me indicates that such thinking is reflective of the thinking of the rank and file and that is worrying. This is not some fringe group we are talking about here, this is Umno and it is the ruling party.

[I have deleted the rest of the letter because of copy right issues.  You can read it by clicking the link.MBM]
Azmi Sharom
Kuala Lumpur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those Malays who think more of preserving their Malay rights than of the welfare of the nation, I&#8217;d like to share this well-reasoned letter to the Sun from Azmi Sharom. I believe the gentleman is a Law Professor at IIU.</p>
<p>Perhaps the article may also create the needed dissonance in the thinking of some of those who think that voting the statusquo out will bring racial chaos. That&#8217;s falling into the trap of UMNO. They&#8217;ve held that threat over us since May 13 1969. Haven&#8217;t we grown up enough since then to be able to tell those Ugly Malays in UMNO where to stuff their racist threats?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=16221" rel="nofollow">http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=16221</a><br />
Tue, 28 Nov 2006<br />
SPEAK UP! :: Letters</p>
<p>Fear-mongers drown out genuine issues</p>
<p>It would be an understatement to say that the just-concluded Umno General Assembly has caused a great deal of concern among right-thinking Malaysians, regardless of race. The language by many of the delegates was disgraceful. Although the prime minister did make conciliatory gestures in his closing address, the fact remains that not one of the Umno delegates, with the exception of Markiman Kobiran, publicly said anything against such behaviour. This to me indicates that such thinking is reflective of the thinking of the rank and file and that is worrying. This is not some fringe group we are talking about here, this is Umno and it is the ruling party.</p>
<p>[I have deleted the rest of the letter because of copy right issues.  You can read it by clicking the link.MBM]<br />
Azmi Sharom<br />
Kuala Lumpur</p>
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		<title>By: Grass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I have my doubts KJ will be allowed to take over from that Krishammuddin. His days may be over sooner than we know. He has offended many and proved to be a real 'pain'   Remember he was not the 'choice' of the youths. He merely walked in with new credentials  - SIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I have my doubts KJ will be allowed to take over from that Krishammuddin. His days may be over sooner than we know. He has offended many and proved to be a real &#8216;pain&#8217;   Remember he was not the &#8216;choice&#8217; of the youths. He merely walked in with new credentials  - SIL.</p>
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		<title>By: chez1978</title>
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		<dc:creator>chez1978</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to point something out. In most common usage, special education or pendidikan khas refers to education for the handicapped or the gifted. 

When the word special is used, it implies a unique arrangement is needed due to either an inferior or superior departure from the mean. One cannot argue for a superior and deferential treatment on the basis of inferiority. The lifting of a community deemed inferior is to raise it to par, not to make beggars the king and overlord. 

Analogies should never be extended into logic arguments proper. Political rallies and stuntshows are what they are, vacous peddling to the masses by appealing on their emotions and ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to point something out. In most common usage, special education or pendidikan khas refers to education for the handicapped or the gifted. </p>
<p>When the word special is used, it implies a unique arrangement is needed due to either an inferior or superior departure from the mean. One cannot argue for a superior and deferential treatment on the basis of inferiority. The lifting of a community deemed inferior is to raise it to par, not to make beggars the king and overlord. </p>
<p>Analogies should never be extended into logic arguments proper. Political rallies and stuntshows are what they are, vacous peddling to the masses by appealing on their emotions and ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Panjang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Panjang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To change the present half past six gov't has to start with the Malay middle class. But this category of Malays have been steadily fed by the government (discounts, scholarships &#38; other freebies) and are so very contented, that they will even vote a monkey standing on a BN ticket.

One thing I cannot fathom is that most Malays potray a very religious front but yet can condone blatant 'sinful' acts commited by the gov't. It's as if "mereka tu orang kita, agama kita, tak apa-lah!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To change the present half past six gov&#8217;t has to start with the Malay middle class. But this category of Malays have been steadily fed by the government (discounts, scholarships &amp; other freebies) and are so very contented, that they will even vote a monkey standing on a BN ticket.</p>
<p>One thing I cannot fathom is that most Malays potray a very religious front but yet can condone blatant &#8217;sinful&#8217; acts commited by the gov&#8217;t. It&#8217;s as if &#8220;mereka tu orang kita, agama kita, tak apa-lah!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: yk</title>
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		<dc:creator>yk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last Monday, there was a naming ceremony for a RM800 million LNG carrier, first time in history of Malaysia (previously, the naming could only be at the Korean or Japanese shipyards). 

To make the occasion even more grand, the ship's crew are all Malaysian. The captain and chief engineer are Malay. The ship is chartered by British Gas to carry LNG from Egypt to the UK. Supposely it shall be officiated by AB, but he failed to turn up as he was so tired because the day before he spent 6 hours at MAHA. 

Just ask anybody who went to MAHA, how disastrous the place is. How inconvenient the location is. How stupid that AB choses that stupid MAHA and missed the opportunity to celebrate the achievement of the nation.

We all missed you TDM. Almighty God, help Malaysia. Please give us wise leader and relief us from mediocre ones that will lead us astray. Amin.

p/s: the ship's name is Seri Anggun, maybe this was the reason ... he wanted it to be Seri something</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Monday, there was a naming ceremony for a RM800 million LNG carrier, first time in history of Malaysia (previously, the naming could only be at the Korean or Japanese shipyards). </p>
<p>To make the occasion even more grand, the ship&#8217;s crew are all Malaysian. The captain and chief engineer are Malay. The ship is chartered by British Gas to carry LNG from Egypt to the UK. Supposely it shall be officiated by AB, but he failed to turn up as he was so tired because the day before he spent 6 hours at MAHA. </p>
<p>Just ask anybody who went to MAHA, how disastrous the place is. How inconvenient the location is. How stupid that AB choses that stupid MAHA and missed the opportunity to celebrate the achievement of the nation.</p>
<p>We all missed you TDM. Almighty God, help Malaysia. Please give us wise leader and relief us from mediocre ones that will lead us astray. Amin.</p>
<p>p/s: the ship&#8217;s name is Seri Anggun, maybe this was the reason &#8230; he wanted it to be Seri something</p>
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		<title>By: longjaafar</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From most of the posts, I can see that very few give PAS any mention. If any, it is just to say how inept they are at administration.
The demonisation of PAS is so well organised that even the very informed educated middle class give PAS a pass. Little do they realise that there are ample brains and experience in PAS and those waiting in the sidelines are equally if not more competent to run the government.  The only reason why they do not 'surface' is for fear of reprisals. UMNO can be very vicious even to their own kind as can be seen when Anwar Ibrahim and all his supporters (all UMNO members) were taken to the dryers and are now bankrupt or almost there. If not why would they want to control the media, and allow Harakah only limited issues. PKR does not have a permit at all.
Every time when someone asks to give PAS a chance, there will be an equally vibrant refusal citing 'talibanisation' or something to that effect. 
For those doubters, do visit Kelantan and do talk to the people there, especially the non malays and ask them why they are still staying there if the conditions are so bad. Do not compare infrastructure though, because Kelantan is not supposed to progress as long as people there do not vote BN.

LJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From most of the posts, I can see that very few give PAS any mention. If any, it is just to say how inept they are at administration.<br />
The demonisation of PAS is so well organised that even the very informed educated middle class give PAS a pass. Little do they realise that there are ample brains and experience in PAS and those waiting in the sidelines are equally if not more competent to run the government.  The only reason why they do not &#8217;surface&#8217; is for fear of reprisals. UMNO can be very vicious even to their own kind as can be seen when Anwar Ibrahim and all his supporters (all UMNO members) were taken to the dryers and are now bankrupt or almost there. If not why would they want to control the media, and allow Harakah only limited issues. PKR does not have a permit at all.<br />
Every time when someone asks to give PAS a chance, there will be an equally vibrant refusal citing &#8216;talibanisation&#8217; or something to that effect.<br />
For those doubters, do visit Kelantan and do talk to the people there, especially the non malays and ask them why they are still staying there if the conditions are so bad. Do not compare infrastructure though, because Kelantan is not supposed to progress as long as people there do not vote BN.</p>
<p>LJ</p>
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